Option for Key width

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dylan666
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Option for Key width

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Hi, I'd like an option to change key width. Could you Add it? Combined with the key height option that you added some time ago it would be perfect o my x10 mini that has a very little screen!
Thanks in advance
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cyril
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Re: Option for Key width

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Hello
adding such an option doesn't make sense, as the keyboard already takes the whole width of the screen. If you want the look to be different just use another skin with less space between keys (but this is just a visual effect, there are never holes between keys anyway)
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paradyne
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Re: Option for Key width

Post by paradyne »

Hi,

As a variation on this request, could you allow the keyboard to *not* take up the full width of the display? I have a 1024x600 10.1" screen and in landscape mode when you hold the tablet with one hand and type with the other it's a long way from Q to P!

If the keyboard just took, say the middle 2/3rds of the display it would be faster to type on with less arm movement required.

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London
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Post by London »

The feature would make sense if each column could be given it's own width. This feature would be nice both for rows and columns -- as mentioned in http://www.dexilog.com/smartkeyboard/fo ... ?f=2&t=964 . I'm on the x10 too, btw.
And thank you Cyril for the best Android keyboard!
Vlasac
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Re: Option for Key width

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cyril wrote:but this is just a visual effect, there are never holes between keys anyway
I think having holes between keys (as option) would help making fewer mistakes, because now when you touch borderline outcome is unpredictable. With neutral zone you would see there is no letter coming and reposition finger accordingly. Much faster then backspacing and retyping.
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cyril
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I think having holes between keys (as option) would help making fewer mistakes, because now when you touch borderline outcome is unpredictable. With neutral zone you would see there is no letter coming and reposition finger accordingly. Much faster then backspacing and retyping.
It may be worth the experiment, but I don't think it would improve anything to have holes, as anyway there is a proximity correction in the prediction algorithm, so hitting the neutral zone or even the wrong key has no impact on prediction most of the times (unless you disable prediction of course, but I don't see how you can live without prediction if your typing is not accurate). On another hand, it would make typing very frustrating as you will often hit this neutral zone (otherwise, why do you ask for it? ;) ), which will cause missed letters, and you will need to backspace and correct anyway, as you will probably already have typed the next letter before noticing this missed letter. And of course holes will not help if you type the wrong letter, in which case the only solution anyway is to rely on the proximity correction algorithm.
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Vlasac
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As I explained elsewhere Croatian language has too many variants of same word for practical using of prediction. There is no space to display all of them, let alone similar words and their variants, so you end up typing until whole word is written anyway. Also I find very distracting typing letters and watching if correct word has appeared. And suggestions takes display space...

Hitting neutral zone should have no effect, so by absence of haptic feedback you can tell what is going on and slide finger towards desired letter until you 'feel' it.

My typings usually have starting point inside correct letter and ending point (which is apparently crucial) on border, sometimes just few pixels too far.
London
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Re: Option for Key width

Post by London »

Perhaps an option to reduce the font size in the predictions could help with some of those issues...

I would still love the option to be able to define each columns width -- using the T9 layout, this would allow me bigger text buttons an smaller edge keys, which I can hit with 2/3s of my thumb off screen anyways.
And thank you Cyril for the best Android keyboard!
sfrazee123
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Re: Option for Key width

Post by sfrazee123 »

Keyboard width would be helpful, in addition to the height which is already in settings!

A good example is I plan on upgrading my original htc incredible to a razr maxx soon. The razr maxx is like 1/2 inch wider (almost) than my phone now (hopefully screen not so much). It may be an issue to one hand type going from my 3.7 inch screen to a 4.3 inch screen. And think of people with even larger screens... If you could change not only the height, but the width (so keyboard doesn't use the whole screen width, it will help those that struggle to reach all the keys with larger screens...

thanks- Scott
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Re: Option for Key width

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It seems to me that the combination of haptic feedback in addition to having holes between the keys would greatly improve typing speed. Coming from a physical keyboard on my last phone, I have to say that touchscreen typing is still lightyears behind in terms of getting typing speed up. Part of the reason for that is it's just too easy to hit the wrong key and know that you've hit it until it's too late. True, autocorrect helps a little bit with that, and dynamic resizing is a plus, but actually being able to hit a "dead spot" and reposition your finger so as to hit the correct letter, rather than relying on resizing, would dramatically improve typing time.

Think about it: If instead of guessing where you meant to land, the keyboard instead gives you no feedback in the empty areas between keys and waits for you to reposition your finger to get the letter you meant to push. You'd begin to approximate the feel of a real keyboard, which is what touchscreens have always strived for.
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